Steve, Eric, and Patrick introduce Chris Swecker, former Chief Deputy in the FBI Criminal Division during the George W. Bush administration and Paul Pelletier, former prosecutor in the Department of Justice under Obama.

Swecker reflects on how he built a national dragnet to reign in mortgage fraud and prosecute its biggest perpetrators, only to be scuttled by the high-profile political relationship between the targets and his elected bosses. Pelletier, similarly, weighs in on how a massive, national case was built against the biggest predatory lenders, only to be pushed aside by twin villains, the revolving door between the public and private sectors and the pernicious pro-bank ideology held by his appointed superiors.